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	<title>Comments on: Post-lectem view on Pattern Recognition 29/40</title>
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	<description>Everyone knows diaries are full of crap.</description>
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		<title>By: anaj</title>
		<link>http://anaj.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/post-lectem-view-on-pattern-recognition-2940/#comment-768</link>
		<dc:creator>anaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe its IS a term for hyperlink? I've never heard the word myself:-) Or did  you mix up hotspot and hyperlink? hotspot is a type of hyperlink, but out of fashion these days. It means that different parts of an image link to different places. sometimes one can only find these hotspots through hovering the mouse over the image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe its IS a term for hyperlink? I&#8217;ve never heard the word myself:-) Or did  you mix up hotspot and hyperlink? hotspot is a type of hyperlink, but out of fashion these days. It means that different parts of an image link to different places. sometimes one can only find these hotspots through hovering the mouse over the image.</p>
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		<title>By: skunkcabbage</title>
		<link>http://anaj.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/post-lectem-view-on-pattern-recognition-2940/#comment-754</link>
		<dc:creator>skunkcabbage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hotlinker is my confusion about hotlinkt. I thought it was a word for hyperlink. Guess not. (The sheepish American shuffles his feet, looks embarassed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hotlinker is my confusion about hotlinkt. I thought it was a word for hyperlink. Guess not. (The sheepish American shuffles his feet, looks embarassed).</p>
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		<title>By: anaj</title>
		<link>http://anaj.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/post-lectem-view-on-pattern-recognition-2940/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>anaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 05:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, there isn't something that brings together curiosity and cats. You can only burst with curiosity (vor Neugier platzen).

What's a hotlinker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, there isn&#8217;t something that brings together curiosity and cats. You can only burst with curiosity (vor Neugier platzen).</p>
<p>What&#8217;s a hotlinker?</p>
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		<title>By: skunkcabbage</title>
		<link>http://anaj.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/post-lectem-view-on-pattern-recognition-2940/#comment-679</link>
		<dc:creator>skunkcabbage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, by the way, for trying to hunt down the quote and the possible translation! :))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, by the way, for trying to hunt down the quote and the possible translation! :))</p>
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		<title>By: skunkcabbage</title>
		<link>http://anaj.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/post-lectem-view-on-pattern-recognition-2940/#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>skunkcabbage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just killed 5 kittens trying to figure out if it's a joke about "curiosity killing the cat." Is there a similar expression in German?

There's a bit in the Beatles Yellow submarine (which I watched ad nauseaum as a bored 14 year old video store clerk) where one of the beatles asks Ringo, I think, why he pulled a particular lever. His response: "I'm a born lever puller." I appear to be a born hotlinker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just killed 5 kittens trying to figure out if it&#8217;s a joke about &#8220;curiosity killing the cat.&#8221; Is there a similar expression in German?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a bit in the Beatles Yellow submarine (which I watched ad nauseaum as a bored 14 year old video store clerk) where one of the beatles asks Ringo, I think, why he pulled a particular lever. His response: &#8220;I&#8217;m a born lever puller.&#8221; I appear to be a born hotlinker.</p>
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		<title>By: anaj</title>
		<link>http://anaj.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/post-lectem-view-on-pattern-recognition-2940/#comment-673</link>
		<dc:creator>anaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll look it up for you, promise! It will be in German, but I'll try to translate. And Jetsam will also be able to help. 

Don't open this link, it's a virus (a mental one): 

http://www.kodiefiles.nl/games/virus.swf

I just wasted half an hour of my life with it. My record is 28.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll look it up for you, promise! It will be in German, but I&#8217;ll try to translate. And Jetsam will also be able to help. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t open this link, it&#8217;s a virus (a mental one): </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kodiefiles.nl/games/virus.swf" rel="nofollow">http://www.kodiefiles.nl/games/virus.swf</a></p>
<p>I just wasted half an hour of my life with it. My record is 28.</p>
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		<title>By: skunkcabbage</title>
		<link>http://anaj.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/post-lectem-view-on-pattern-recognition-2940/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>skunkcabbage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be VERY interested to learn who wrote about the heavy blood broth--sounds (smells?) like naturalism territory. In fact naturalism and film is an area I need to look into, perhaps with a little help from friends. :)

Damn, I want to chat about narratology but am being summoned to dinner. Real quick: Years of programming have degraded my narratological appreciation (though sometimes I can sneak a thrill under the radar). Frankly, I think Adorno may be to blame, or thank, or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be VERY interested to learn who wrote about the heavy blood broth&#8211;sounds (smells?) like naturalism territory. In fact naturalism and film is an area I need to look into, perhaps with a little help from friends. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Damn, I want to chat about narratology but am being summoned to dinner. Real quick: Years of programming have degraded my narratological appreciation (though sometimes I can sneak a thrill under the radar). Frankly, I think Adorno may be to blame, or thank, or both.</p>
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		<title>By: anaj</title>
		<link>http://anaj.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/post-lectem-view-on-pattern-recognition-2940/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>anaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I see that point. But it also makes me realize how estranged from hermeneutic interpretations I have become and how much my focus has shifted to narratology (in the limited, ideological sense of 'Good story telling'). 

I suppose that is a byproduct of teaching five storytelling seminars at the time (three about digitalstory telling - which are coming out nicely - and two about creative writing for film, a.k.a. Developing story ideas for feature films, which is about to kick off now). You could also say that another byproduct of this is a decreased appreciation for metaphor = bourgeois play of signifiers. 

My own statements make me think of something that an early critic (around 1910) wrote about film. Something about the heavy, bloody broth that (then) contemporary audiences need (as opposed to bourgeois art). Need to look that up.  

But it's true: I _liked_ the 'scenes' from the dig - I liked their memento mori appeal, but hoped that they'd be integrated, in order to be more than just intellectual décor, to be decoded by a few blessed ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I see that point. But it also makes me realize how estranged from hermeneutic interpretations I have become and how much my focus has shifted to narratology (in the limited, ideological sense of &#8216;Good story telling&#8217;). </p>
<p>I suppose that is a byproduct of teaching five storytelling seminars at the time (three about digitalstory telling - which are coming out nicely - and two about creative writing for film, a.k.a. Developing story ideas for feature films, which is about to kick off now). You could also say that another byproduct of this is a decreased appreciation for metaphor = bourgeois play of signifiers. </p>
<p>My own statements make me think of something that an early critic (around 1910) wrote about film. Something about the heavy, bloody broth that (then) contemporary audiences need (as opposed to bourgeois art). Need to look that up.  </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s true: I _liked_ the &#8217;scenes&#8217; from the dig - I liked their memento mori appeal, but hoped that they&#8217;d be integrated, in order to be more than just intellectual décor, to be decoded by a few blessed ones.</p>
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		<title>By: skunkcabbage</title>
		<link>http://anaj.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/post-lectem-view-on-pattern-recognition-2940/#comment-651</link>
		<dc:creator>skunkcabbage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another quick thought:  PR is also concerned, I think, with what will become of 9/11's history and signs. The Russian documentary is relevant here, too. There's something elegiac about the whole proceedings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another quick thought:  PR is also concerned, I think, with what will become of 9/11&#8217;s history and signs. The Russian documentary is relevant here, too. There&#8217;s something elegiac about the whole proceedings.</p>
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		<title>By: skunkcabbage</title>
		<link>http://anaj.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/post-lectem-view-on-pattern-recognition-2940/#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>skunkcabbage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Jetsam's department, but I do think the rights for a film version have been sold and it may already be in production? I'm struck by the way the jacket looks nothing like what I had imagined, something more traditionally bomber-jacketish, I guess. I like Dark Petroleum. That's good. If you're not careful, someone will make it. 

I think the documentary in Russia is concerned with the commodification of history, the use of the dead as divorced image--a kind of metaphor for the failed project of controlling one's signs. Drunk fortune-hunting also seems like a kind of consumption of history. Shooting the documentary is like watching shoppers at the mall. Simulacra (like in the Vietnam-themed bar) is a form of looting the dead. This fits the thematic concerns of the novel even if, as you point out, it doesn't get us any closer to discovering "the maker." I read the footage as a kind of antithesis to the documentary. The footage lacks historical tags. It's more Levinas unknowability than Baudrillard simulacra. Maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Jetsam&#8217;s department, but I do think the rights for a film version have been sold and it may already be in production? I&#8217;m struck by the way the jacket looks nothing like what I had imagined, something more traditionally bomber-jacketish, I guess. I like Dark Petroleum. That&#8217;s good. If you&#8217;re not careful, someone will make it. </p>
<p>I think the documentary in Russia is concerned with the commodification of history, the use of the dead as divorced image&#8211;a kind of metaphor for the failed project of controlling one&#8217;s signs. Drunk fortune-hunting also seems like a kind of consumption of history. Shooting the documentary is like watching shoppers at the mall. Simulacra (like in the Vietnam-themed bar) is a form of looting the dead. This fits the thematic concerns of the novel even if, as you point out, it doesn&#8217;t get us any closer to discovering &#8220;the maker.&#8221; I read the footage as a kind of antithesis to the documentary. The footage lacks historical tags. It&#8217;s more Levinas unknowability than Baudrillard simulacra. Maybe?</p>
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